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Why it's important to lobby for a fair celebrant fee or none

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Why do celebrants need to take a stand for a genuine community consultation?

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No trumpets sound when the important decisions of our life are made. Destiny is made known silently.
Agnes De Mille


But why bother .. I think this won't really affect me?

Think again ... Full cost recovery means the Professional Celebrant Fee will become higher with fewer celebrants.
Read more if you actually do think this will increase professionalism.

But why bother ... haven't they just made up their mind and there is nothing we can so anyway?

Well nothing will change, if we do nothing to change it


There is always a possibility of change, if enough people make lobby their MPs and Senators and make it public knowledge that what is happening.

Firstly the Professional Fee is discriminatory and not in the public interest
  • is an attack on civil and minority religious marriages
  • will cost 60+% of the marrying public more money for their celebrant.

Secondly, the enormous size of this fee is not necessary if

  • Sections 45, 46 and 47 were changed to reduce confusion
  • broader educational opportunities were available for OPD
  • the MLCS had a better computer, interactive website / data base and IT mechanism
  • worked on the same model of marriage celebrant as applies to the religious celebrants
  • the Marriage Law and Celebrant Section too a less punitive and more preventative / educative approach to their work

$ 4.2 million is based on increasing the MLSC to include more administrative and legal staff. This amount would not be necessary if a more preventative/ educative and less punitive approach were taken to Compliance.

These are the TWO messages we need to communicate to MPs and Senators

So there are times in each of our lives when we need to stand up and be counted.

Celebrants need to ensure the best way of doing things is followed, because those processes protect all citizens against ill-informed decisions made by governments.

A case of ensuring "the end is justified by the means"

The government is about to force a fundamental change in the way that civil and minority religious marriage celebrants will be treated and regulated that does not apply to the clergy and other recognised religious celebrants.

  • Surely. if all the arguments in the Regulation Impact Statement were true as regards the validity of marriages and the competence of celebrants, then the same scrutiny would need to apply to all celebrants, particularly as recognised religious celebrants receive no specific training nor supervision over the legal aspects of their role?
  • More importantly without any PRIOR public consultation when introducing a  discriminatory fee (whether it is large or small), how can the Office of Best Practice have assessed this Regulation Impact statement as 'adequate'?
  • If the MLCS were used a preventive/ educative model rather than punitive, then such a high fee would not be needed.

No PRIOR general public nor PRIOR celebrant nor PRIOR celebrant association  nor even  PRIOR peak celebrant body consultation on whether the community needs or wants the Marriage Law and Celebrant Section  funded by

  • an indirect discriminatory tax on 60 + % of marriages or
  • tax payers money so all marriages are treated fairly.

What can you do?

The two most effective things you can do is

Write to your MP and state Senator simply stating

  • The Office of Best Practice failed to adequately assess the Regulation Impact Statement
  • 60% of marriages are about to be taxed without any prior public consultation
  • the public will be paying for more public servants to correct problems that can be solved in other less costly ways
  • the enormous size of the fee is not necessary if the MLSC was better informed
  • the government should be taking the advice of its own celebrant peak body CoCA
  • requesting that the introduction of this change be delayed until a valid community consultation happens.

Write to your local paper

  • stating that 60% of marriages are about to be taxed without any prior public consultation
  • the public will be paying for more public servants to correct problems that can be solved in other less costly ways
  • the government should be taking the advice of its own celebrant peak body CoCA

Are you not convinced this is an important issue involving discrimination?

The current issues facing the world of marriage celebrants are complex.

How the current Marriage Act works, is  an outcome of

  • historical events
  • attempts to correct problems, creating other problems and
  • the widespread myth that civil marriage celebrants earn a lot of money
If this government were in any way serious about the quality of marriage services to the 95% of couples that do not use registry offices, then the Compiiance Criteria would have to apply to all.

Where else are people being threatened with the loss of an appointment (work/charity/ service) on grounds that only apply to 10,ooo of the 35,ooo work force that delivers services TO the public FOR the government?

Or wheremost people who are providing a government service at their own expense, are called, the "recipients" of the benefits of the program, and thus  rationalise that they can tax them and their clients for the privilege!

The Chaplaincy in Schools Program has had heaps of media cover for exactly the same religious discrimination issue.

But not civil celebrants. Why?
  • Because of the wide spread myth that civil celebrants make heaps of money, or are in it only for the money?
  • Because the AGD can divide and conquer .. not all associations belong to the peak body etc. .. and threaten us with loss of appointments, it would not dare to do to religious.
  • Because of the 10 to 20% who believe that if a celebrant is only doing a few weddings a year, that means they are incompetent.
Well even if the latter were true, then tall celebrants should be lobbying for the same Compliance Measures to apply for ALL Celebrants.
  • Some have argued that if one looks at this issue in the broader context, the government cannot levy any sort of fee on the clergy. - that  any tax on individual religious celebrant could and would be seen to be a tax on religion.
Whatever the reason, if the government can not tax one group of marriage celebrants, then that very fact, makes taxing another group discriminatory.

Some people falsely beleive that the "separation of church and state" is so the state can not interfere with the internal workings of the church, rather than ensuring a "fair go" for all.

This means that religions can discriminate on a range of issues, such as sexual preference, without any censure even when delivering government services,

Perhaps not a concern when the churches funds all their own activities.

But when they are providing services for which they have government funding (eg employment, education, aged care, disability, etc) or can receive financial benefit for a government service (eg marriage services), this is of major concern.

Religious groups can practice discrimination on sexual preference ad other grounds, because Australia does not have a Commonwealth Act against Discrimination based upon Religion.

To those who value the civil (neither secular nor religious) functions such as civil marriage, allowing the government to sneak in such discrimination without even a squeak is a serious concern.

Others have suggested that this is a move to align civil marriages with the rather  superficial  money oriented wedding industry.

So when 'same sex' marriage comes in, civil marriage will be the  second-class relationship, the religious lobby have always believed civil marriage to be.

Whether one buys into conspiracy theories or not, the facts are that this is a huge change that will affect 60% of the marrying public, brought in without prior genuine community consultation.

Still not convinced? See the tax on taxis analogy
Be informed as to the alternate ways of increasing professionalism and decreasing numbers
And read more about things you can do

Refer people to www.celebranstequailty.org.au  

R Goold Chairperson
Civil Celebrations Network Inc.
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